Jul 18, 2011 6:00am EDT
to beat president obama. a look at the war in afghanistan. now the longest war. how do we get out? does obama's policy differ from president bush's and what is the effect for generations to come? joe and mika and willie join in the conversation later this hour. we begin with the debt crisis. they are trying to make a deal on the deficit. houses of congress are rolling out separate compromises to safe off a default. harry reid is meeting with mitch mcconnell to craft a solution to appeal to both parties. according to reports, this would do the following. it would allow the debt ceiling to be raised three times for a total of $2.5 trillion. in exchange, some $1.5 trillion in spending cuts would be enacted. the plan would be established to identify new deficit cuts. proposal, already, getting a lukewarm response from the fellow republicans. among them, the freshman snar mark arubio and tom coburn. take a listen. >> it gives the president the ability to raise the debt limit. the debt limit isn't the problem. the problem is the debt. the plan, as outlined to me isn't a credible solution. >>
Jul 21, 2011 6:00am EDT
of afghanistan and iraq. >> the republicans we have on the show say they are open to the loophole cuts. are they? >> tom coburn is. he provides a lot of cover. >> i was wondering what mike was quoting. how many pages can you get read in the seventh inning stretch? >> it's in between innings. it's the entire game. >> the tough thing for president obama, he's going to say he will extend the deadline, if it looks like a deal is coming together. this, to me, is the difficult part. if all he had to deal with was the senate, i have no doubt in the next week you would have a deal that would work. the house is difficult. he's going to need to know from nancy pelosi and john boehner the votes are in place. today, not even close to that. >> you will lose 100, maybe 120 republicans right out. if you get most of the democratic caucus and boehner pulls in 100 republicans, it gets done. it's up to the democrats. i think boehner can get 100 republicans. can pelosi get 120 democrats? >> right. okay. we are going to get to bill karins on the heat in a minute. before we go, new developments in the hacking scandal
Jul 18, 2011 3:00am PDT
last act as commander of nato forces in afghanistan. he handed off authority to the new komd ander john allen. petraeus is retiring from the army at the end of the month. he will be taking over as director of the cia in september. >> that's right. the government not able to pay its bills is looming large they are morning. the clock ticks towards the deadline. 16 days now and counting. the president and congressional lead remember pecked to meet again this week. last week wasn't all that successful. at the same time, the senate will begin debating a scaled-back fallback plan. both sides say they are optimistic they will strike a deal. >> i'm confident cooler heads will prevail. at tend we will not allow the united states to default on its debt despite the fact some people think that would be okay. >> if the president keeps insisting on raising taxes on american workers, there's not going to be a deal. i do think, however, that republican leaders will not allow the country to go into default. >> president obama insists both parties must agree on a deal by friday in order for it to get pas
Jul 21, 2011 3:00am PDT
in afghanistan's air force. >> and are training in texas. ed lavandara has more on their history making mission. >> reporter: the passion and dreams of these four women easily cuts through their broken english. >> we are going to open the door for our laid niece afghanistan. it is a big deal for us to open the door. ladies that have dreams but can't do it. we want to show them. >> reporter: these laid reese lieutenants in the afghanistan military and have come to the united states to study english at the defense language institute in texas. it is their dreams of piloting helicopters that could help change the future of women in their homeland. >> these young ladies are path finders, trail blazers. and -- as such, they are subject to the criticism and antagonism of those that don't want to see the particular path. >> reporter: the soldiers say they are prepared for the scrutiny and are confident. >> the women of afghanistan, don't be afraid of anything. if you want to do something, you can do it. just believe in yourself you can do it. >> reporter: back home, these women are battling chauvanism.
Jul 21, 2011 5:00pm PDT
on our hands with afghanistan, the debt ceiling, joblessness, and all of that. we can't help but notice a school yard scuffle on the floor of congress. on one side, debbie wasserman schultz, the chairman of the democratic national committee, never met a sound bite she didn't like. and on the other side, alan west, republican from florida's second district, a tea party favorite and no stranger to controversy. they're practically neighbors, right. it started when representative schultz lobbed something over the backyard fence. take a listen. >> incredulously, the gentleman from florida, who represents thousands of medicare beneficiaries, as do i, is supportive of this plan that would increase costs for medicare beneficiaries, unbelievable from a member from south florida. >> well, neighbor west took huge offense at this. he fired back an e-mail to her personal e-mail, i might note, and he said, i quote, "you are the most vile, unprofessional, and despicable member of the house of representatives." wow, that tells you something, especially considering how many might qualify for that title.
Jul 22, 2011 5:00pm PDT
. harbored by an entire country. afghanistan. >> not my clients who have no relation. no one has alleged that my clients have any relationship to terrorism. >> bill: if your clients were really sensitive to the sufferings of the 9/11 family they would move it three blocks away. >> how many blocks is enough? is three enough? take it back to my ancestor in nazi germany. >> bill: stop stop stop. >> foundries, ghettos. >> bill: i will get a site for you three blocks away. will you build it there? >> why? they have a place. >> bill: sensitive to people who lost loved ones. >> what about the community nearby who wants. >> bill: they can't walk three blocks? >> why. >> bill: because it's offensive. >> it's not al qaeda mosque a muslim mosque. 1.6 million muslims that are peaceful. that have nothing to do. >> bill: if i can find you a site three blocks away and say i'm not going to do it. people know you have an agenda, period. >> don't you as someone who stands up every day for the first amendment and freedom of religion want them to build something where they want to pray and how they want to
Jul 20, 2011 12:00pm EDT
of president obama when it's clear that the wars in iraq and afghanistan added to the nation's debt? >> it did. he's the commander in chief he could have removed our troops at any point in time. let's taung about barack obama's position in washington, d.c. during the six years he's been in washington our accumulated national debt has increased by more than 50 percent. what is president obama's response been now and as a senator to increase spending even more, not to cut it. but to increase spending even more. two years as a freshman senator, the debt goes up $400 billion because of deficits. two years when he's in the majority of the united states senate, it goes up $1.8 trillion. now it's up $2.8 trillion while he's president. >> you're simplifying the issues on the plate of the nation at that point. we were looking at going -- reverting into a depression at that point. everyone the fed chairman -- >> i disagree. >> do you have a degree in economics? >> yes, ma'am, i do. highest honors. >> okay. so you disagree with the fed chairman, ben bernanke. you disagreed at the time paul vol ker and ot
Jul 19, 2011 6:00am EDT
afghanistan, pakistan. you're reading a couple pieces in the "new york times." now it's spreading to all of these different countries and one that really jumped off the page for me, drone attacks in somalia. >> joining us, jeremy scahill, on the cia secret sites in somalia, jeremy, the secret training programs and secret prisons out of somalia is part of your reporting there. how big a threat are these terrorist group there's? >> we should say first of all president obama campaigned on a promise to go up against these bush era policies declaring war on the world, running secret sites, torturing prisoners. deeply involved in an underground dungeon officially run by the somali national security agency, but their salaries are paid by the cia directly. in fact, one somali agent described thousand hairli ed ho and paid by u.s. agents and the u.s. is interrogating prisoners, including those rendered by the kenyan government, snatched off the streets in nairobi based on u.s. intelligence and taken to this secret prison and interrogated. it goes against the president's ordered he signed in janua